# 0hmx - asked ai to compare us to free routing

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Source: https://discord.com/channels/1233487248129921135/1554983053208588439
Started: 2026-09-30T22:27:30.942000+00:00
Last activity: 2026-09-30T23:20:51.874000+00:00

## 0hmx — 2026-09-30T22:27:30.073000+00:00

asked ai to compare us to free routing
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## 0hmx — 2026-09-30T22:33:49.006000+00:00

comparing the effort right now

## 0hmx — 2026-09-30T22:44:26.957000+00:00

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## Seve — 2026-09-30T22:45:54.069000+00:00

are you sure this is pipeline9

## Seve — 2026-09-30T22:46:03.814000+00:00

can you use the latest version and pipeline09

## Seve — 2026-09-30T22:46:28.541000+00:00

also freerouting fails on 50+ trace boards, it is pretty decent on small boards for sure

## 0hmx — 2026-09-30T22:58:29.068000+00:00

I asked the ai to see if our previous stage of graph Coloring optimization algo and we can expose that as an algorithm to use in simplification stage if it works well enough I am not sure it's working background

## Seve — 2026-09-30T23:02:31.592000+00:00

this is an example of a very simple pattern to optimize in simplification
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## Seve — 2026-09-30T23:02:52.021000+00:00

effort is just completely broken right now, we might as well turn it off everywhere and just run simplification longer for higher effort levels

## 0hmx — 2026-09-30T23:05:53.725000+00:00

Yaaa haa this can be optimistic easily.

## 0hmx — 2026-09-30T23:06:24.192000+00:00

Yes disabled efforts will be good to

## 0hmx — 2026-09-30T23:14:51.057000+00:00

I think we have to have profiles of some kind based on board connection count. So we look better on a small boards

## Seve — 2026-09-30T23:15:21.452000+00:00

we could do auto-effort selection

## Seve — 2026-09-30T23:15:25.993000+00:00

that's a pretty easy way to do it

## Seve — 2026-09-30T23:15:31.995000+00:00

if we actually get effort tuned properly

## 0hmx — 2026-09-30T23:18:58.845000+00:00

Haa I was trying to take the easy path of adding some solver that reduces via count by planning better and only run them if we are below curtain connection count.

That wil be too much of an hack ig

## Seve — 2026-09-30T23:19:32.611000+00:00

i like having a single lever that improves quality

## Seve — 2026-09-30T23:19:54.831000+00:00

dynamic adjustment is a great idea, but it could add a second lever

## Seve — 2026-09-30T23:20:01.982000+00:00

but i agree w/ what you're saying

## Seve — 2026-09-30T23:20:16.009000+00:00

freerouting outperforming us on any board grinds my gears hehe

## Seve — 2026-09-30T23:20:51.874000+00:00

you should see if it can do rishabh's pcbgolf hehe https://tscircuit.com/imrishabh18/pcbgolf